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		<title>Irene and Irène and Аня and 安娜</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 09:54:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Recently, as part of my investigation into naming, I came across a curious entry in the Northern Ireland General Register Office FAQ: Question: Can I register my childs name in another language? Answer: You can register your childs name in any language you wish providing you use English characters. I had already discovered that England [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Recently, as part of my <a href="http://nothing.tmtm.com/archives/2630">investigation into naming</a>, I came across a curious entry in the Northern Ireland General Register Office <a href="http://www.groni.gov.uk/faqs.htm">FAQ</a>:</p>
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<li>Question: Can I register my childs name in another language?</li>
<li>Answer: You can register your childs name in any language you wish providing you use English characters.</li>
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<p>I had already discovered that England and Scotland had no such restriction, so I was curious what the basis for it was in NI. Was it some sort of sectarian hold-over from a system that tried to discourage all those Irish names with their fadas and lenition? I could vaguely understand Chinese immigrants being forced to Anglicise their babies&#8217; names, but would all the new Polish immigrants have to avoid all those ł&#8217;s and ś&#8217;s, or convert them to l and s, so that in generations to come there would be all sorts of pronunciation traps like with Menȝies?</p>
<p>Presumably some punctuation characters would be allowable, apostrophes and hyphens being fairly common, but what about others? Could someone have an ! or even an @ in their name?</p>
<p>So I emailed GRONI to find out.</p>
<p>At first they were mildly unhelpful, stating only: &#8220;The General Register Office will accomodate &#8216;accented&#8217; character as long as the name registered is in english text. For example you asked if Irène would be acceptable. The General Register Office does accept such characters.&#8221;</p>
<p>So I asked about for a proper formal definition of what was acceptable or not, giving as a further example letters that might <em>appear</em> to be accented, but actually aren&#8217;t, like å, Ø, and š. Again the broader question was ignored and I was merely told that my examples &#8220;would all be &#8216;characters&#8217; that the GRO could accommodate.&#8221;</p>
<p>Fearing a protracted game of Zendo, where I gave more and more elaborate examples and was left to puzzle out the rules, I gave up on the probing and asked whether it was a legal restriction (in which case, under what legislation), or purely a technical one in some system they use (in which case, an answer about what character set(s) or even Unicode code points would suffice).</p>
<p>After three further emails, all of which were completely ignored, I made a formal complaint. That was initially brushed aside, but eventually I got a response that said that, actually, names can be registered with &#8220;any Unicode character&#8221;, and although there is currently &#8220;a technical restriction on the signature field regarding Unicode characters&#8221;, this is &#8220;currently being investigated&#8221;.</p>
<p>So it seems things are better than I thought, and even 吳安娜 <em>is</em> allowable.</p>
<p>They still haven&#8217;t changed their FAQ though.</p>
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		<title>Endless Nameless?</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 17:29:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Under English law, what dictates that you must have a name? At first glance it seems like a stupid question: of course you have to have a name. But do you? And if so, from when? You don&#8217;t get given a name the instant you&#8217;re born, so there&#8217;s obviously some length of time during which [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Under English law, what dictates that you <strong>must</strong> have a name?</p>
<p>At first glance it seems like a stupid question: <em>of course</em> you have to have a name. But do you? And if so, from when?</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t get given a name the instant you&#8217;re born, so there&#8217;s obviously some length of time during which you&#8217;re entitled not to have one. My first thought was that it was to do with the birth being registered, which is controlled by the <a href="http://www.opsi.gov.uk/RevisedStatutes/Acts/ukpga/1953/cukpga_19530020_en_1">Births and Deaths Registration Act 1953</a>. However, although all births must be registered within 42 days, there is no obligation to register a name at that time. At any time during the first 12 months the Registrar can add a name to the original record.</p>
<p>And although it might be possible to infer from this that you must therefore have to have a name by the end of your first year of life, it doesn&#8217;t actually say so. So if it&#8217;s a legal requirement it must come from somewhere else.</p>
<p>But where?</p>
<p>Suggestions welcome.</p>
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